Curse

deathdela · Apr 16, 2006, 12:28 PM // 12:28

Saying the only realistic way to get fissure is to ebay is far from the truth. I have got my necros fissure and nearly have enough for a second fissure i have got this money through farming things such as IDS when it was worth 55k each so the money for fissure is easily obtained through farming

Tazzo · Apr 16, 2006, 12:50 PM // 12:50

i agree with the above comment,i didnt buy the game only to buy gold from ebay for my goods. I managed to get my first FOW armor for my monk in 3 weeks purely farming UW for ectos.But you need the outlay of a seperate tatoo set 5 sup monk runes a few nesssery weapons outlay at current prices around 50k but rewarding.This is from around 3 hours a day.

Gun Pierson · Apr 16, 2006, 01:29 PM // 13:29

You both forget to mention some things...First, monks and necros can solo/duo uw. I don't see a ranger soloing uw and get his armor in 3 weeks. Second, you both seem to have the time to farm (3 hours a day) and spend time on the market like 'deathdela'. From your point of view it's not that difficult to get the gold and you're right. But like I mentionned in my other reply, this is not the case for everyone.

I'm playing since release and went from the group with time to farm and play to the group who has less time. I farmed my fow armor back in the days and I'm glad I did it. I now realise that having time to play a game hours and hours a day is a luxuary I miss.

Str0b0 · Apr 16, 2006, 03:44 PM // 15:44

I think impulse buying is what makes most people wave buh bye to their savings. If you can function with a lower end version of your dream weapon and Drok's armor then do it. Once you can function effectively everything else is really just window dressing. The only things you should need to buy are identification and salvage kits and if you're breaking the bank on those you're doing a lot more wrong than could ever be fixed even with all the helpful suggestions here. Now that my characters are pretty much at end game I find there is nothing else to do except help people out and farm a little, not hours a day maybe 2 tops, and since I have nothing to spend the money on it becomes rather easy to accumulate it. Also crafting components are an easy if somewhat aggravating way to make cash. Example you can make 60% pure profit, even accounting for the cost of salvage kits and crafting, by making parchment out of wood then reselling it for 80 a sheet, 75 in bulk which trims it to like 55% but still. Now that's 60% more for every kit you buy and every kit's worth of wood you turn into parchment assuming that you average about 3 planks per salvage which is pretty realistic I find.

FeroxC · Apr 16, 2006, 04:27 PM // 16:27

Well ive been doing afew troll runs, ive realised, the amount of junk the trolls drop you can make about 300-500g per run not including the occasional gold(a crap felblade and a axe with 10/10 sundering that salvaged into wood)

You dont need to be rich to farm trolls droks armour and a cheap vampiric axe.
Skills - tornado axe,live vicariously mending.

Strategy- Cast live vicariously then mending gether up all trolls hit tornado then bonettis asfast as you can repeat till all dead :P

Do 6 runs buy 2 obsid keys do a fow chest run.
Pick up your perfect crystaline sword(yea right)

Markaedw · Apr 16, 2006, 04:52 PM // 16:52

you can also craft high end stuff, deldimor steel and dasmask linen, and vellum.

Da Cebuano · Apr 16, 2006, 05:19 PM // 17:19

You get rich by thinking ahead in the market and staying on top of trades.

Francis Crawford · Apr 16, 2006, 09:24 PM // 21:24

Ya know, it occurs to me that I have no idea how much money I've "made" playing this game.

I have 200K in storage, and a little more cash on my characters.

I've given my wife 10K at a time, give or take a factor of two, bunches of times.

I got Bortak's Bone Staff on a drop. Rarely use it, as I like my Defensive collector's staff of Defense, but I have it.

My wife gave me a Rago's Staff and a Kindlerock. I gave her a Vilnar's Claw.

She holds the dyes for both of us, spread between two different accounts. We surely have a bunch of blacks, but I have no idea how many. 5-10 black dyes and sapphires came from me.

I'm hoarding some items for sale, but on the whole fairly minor ones.

I have some good mods for collector's weapons, but not the utter ueber ones.

And so on. After a certain point, it doesn't matter that much, unless you set a specific objective, like a cash hoard size or an armor or whatever. But that's wholly up to you.

Hunter Sharparrow · Apr 16, 2006, 09:46 PM // 21:46

As a direct reply to Ventius's post, you can thank all those farmers and runners for that.

Quote:

By "getting lucky" and finding a really rare item? (how many times /100 kills?)
By farming lots? (surely not, this has been nerfed on a worldwide scale)
By selling and buying? (does Anet really expect us to spend our time doing this?)
By playing the game? (this proves to be distinguishedly unsuccessful)
By eBay? (please vist *lame-e-oh*) (EDIT: on second thoughts, don't, its pr0n i just discovered)

Getting Lucky: That is all about what is left after the updates.

Farming Lots: Anet has been nerfing this while trying (unsuccessfuly) to keep the level of play the same for everyone else who doesn't farm. If those who like nothing more than to get on and farm (whether it's all they have left to do or not) would have left or not played to begin with then maybe anet would have not nerfed the drops and instead of not being able to buy that rune (if the case may be) you would have found it in the course of playing the game playing it as it should be played.

Playing the Game: Maybe once upon a time but due to anet's nerfing updates (brought on by farmers and runners) those days have long passed.

By Ebay: I've seen people banned from GW for both selling and buying (since by buying you are aiding the person who is selling).

Michael_Changstein · Jun 19, 2006, 06:10 AM // 06:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ventius Hozza

I've been playing for 3 months or so. At the beginning i didnt think that money was really a big issue as i had nothing to spend it on, but as you progress further, how are you meant to make money?

By "getting lucky" and finding a really rare item? (how many times /100 kills?)
By farming lots? (surely not, this has been nerfed on a worldwide scale)
By selling and buying? (does Anet really expect us to spend our time doing this?)
By playing the game? (this proves to be distinguishedly unsuccessful)
By eBay? (please vist *lame-e-oh*) (EDIT: on second thoughts, don't, its pr0n i just discovered)

how can we make money without spending our lives on this game?

Sorry if you disagree but i think that there arent enough ways to get money, and a good amount of it.

*Edit by Dral - removed link for the reasons stated by the author of this post*

obviously you don't want to put in the time and effort to get gold, so unless you get lucky, you'll be poor

Snowman · Jun 19, 2006, 12:03 PM // 12:03

wow, 21 pages :O

I'm a player also, dont really like trading or farming, so this is my 'patient way' of making money while enjoying the game at the same time!

Always help guildies with missions, even if you've done them before.. if nothing else you get gold and drops!..

so, when on a mission of any sorts I first make sure I pickup EVERYTHING, keep plenty of salvage kits and salvage nearly everything you pickup! - often people leave their whites.. ask if you can have them!.. just keep building up for materials stock pile and sell them all when they reach 250.

People often leave their blues on the floor!.. ask if you can have them, most people will give you them.. if they are precious keep them to sell, sometimes they are high salvagable, this nets you loads more materials and sometimes alot of rare materials.

Armors with runes... id them and sell them to merchant WITHOUT salvaging them!.. often they sell for loads more than the actual rune!.. do a price check first though, sometimes a rune will fetch 200gold, but most often they only sell for 10 gold

- but the armor will sell for 80gold at the merchant.

Purples, I usually just sell these no matter what.. if you get a nice max damage weapon with a nice mod, you might want to sell it.. but sell it CHEAP!.. this way you dont spend much time I usually spend 5-10 minutes with about 3/4 purple weapons and sell them for 500 gold.. they go quickly. if they dont sell quick enough.. dont waste time, sell them at merchant.

keep an eye on the price of materials!.. tanned hides squares, iron ingots, cloth, chitin fragments and plant fibers tend to go up and down alot, when they are high sell everything.. sometimes though the price will drop while your selling!.. stop, and wait until price goes back up... if your REALLY patient and have the storage you might want to wait along time for the price to peak!

Also, there is good money in converting common materials into rare materials.. Rolls of velum used to be a great little earner.. but thats gone down and now Bolts of damask (dust & Fibers) are more profitable than selling the materials.

If you do get nice gold drops, dont be afraid to spend 10 minutes on Guru to see what the going price is... if your impatient like me, put up WTS for about half the going price.. traders (who do like to trade) will people will snap them up, they run the risk of trying to get the mod out of it, so if its cheap they dont mind.. it usually an easy 1/2k

anyway.. if you do this on each character, after 1-2 months each character will have about 50k each.. pool it all together once you have decided on something you want to buy!

This may seem like a slow way to make money, but if you dont like farming and cant be botherd with trading this is the most fun way!.. and then it just depends on how much you play GW.. obviously the more you pve the more money you will make

x-todd · Jun 19, 2006, 12:46 PM // 12:46

In going through the prophecies game, I actually never really had much problem with money. Being able to get the best armor and weapons and skills.
but then comes Factions...
I had 200k stock piled up. (lot for me) Mostly I got this from just selling things I picked up, like a few green items and my minipet.

Getting armor wasnt bad in Factions, but dang, I went broke trying to purchase all the skills for my 3 Factions characters. I literally only have 4k left on me now and cannot afford to even bring any of my Prophesies characters over to buy any of the new skills for them.

Im usually not one to complain about things like this. But its taking for ever to rebuild up my money.

Just seems that A-net is confusing us. They say that you dont need to farm, and just play the game like it should be (which I agree with), but then in Factions, they make it so you have to pay tons of cash to unlock/get all your skills. Ive finished all the quests and everything that give money for rewards, so I really cant make money doing those. I guess i could just keep doing those repeatable Faction missions over and over. But thats like only 200 gold i think.

wilebill · Jun 19, 2006, 01:00 PM // 13:00

"in the meantime it is Drok armor and collectors weapons"

I've finished Factions with four characters who leveled up in Prophecies. I've kept the Droknar's Forge armor because it is a status symbol in Factions! My Ranger still has his Stalker because it too is a status symbol.

As for collector weapons, still using some of them. The stuff you get in the Crystal Desert is often hard to beat.

Ninna · Jun 19, 2006, 01:02 PM // 13:02

I had a different experience

with Prophecies I never had more than 60k
(I dont farm or sell much "gear")

with Factions, I've made over 300k
-- soley from selling Amber/Jade (from Fort Aspenwood missions)

Prices have dropped for Amber/Jade
but its still easy to make approx 2k per hour (assuming you win 3 missions)

GUE Tech · Jun 19, 2006, 01:49 PM // 13:49

Call me crazy, but I think I have made more money off of runes than anything else, (never having ecto farmed). In the long run it seems to pay out just as well, at least it used too.

Just the other day I thought I would farm for some more guild hall services. So I did a couple of ettin runs. In less than and hour, I had a sup vig drop. Instant 29k.

Yeah I know, it doesn't alway go that easy, but I said in the long run. Thing is, they are just so easy to do. So when someone says they can make 2-3k/hour, I would almost bet you will get at least on sup vig in 10 hours. I'm not saying go 10 hours at a time, just do a few runs here and there and it pays off.

Back when monk runes made money I did even better. In fact, ettins even built my 55, with which I made more money.

I will admit it is deffinately harder to make money these days, but it can be done without too much effort.

Demesis · Jun 19, 2006, 02:54 PM // 14:54

How do you earn money in GW? The answer is easy:

You don't.

Levi Garett · Jun 19, 2006, 03:37 PM // 15:37

Funny how Anet supposedly wants to get rid of botting and Ebaying items/gold for cash, etc., but they fail to realize their farming nerfs and money sinks are just adding fuel to the fire.

Want to get rid of Ebaying for cash? Make money worth LESS and make gold more abundant.

Who bumped this post anyways-the OP was from Nov 05!?!?

GUE Tech · Jun 19, 2006, 03:50 PM // 15:50

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Originally Posted by LeviGarrett

Who bumped this post anyways-the OP was from Nov 05!?!?

At least someone used search, (can't believe it worked) instead of making a new thread.

Vecte · Jun 19, 2006, 04:03 PM // 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael_Changstein

obviously you don't want to put in the time and effort to get gold, so unless you get lucky, you'll be poor

and you obviously haven't paid much attention to the posting of this thread. some people actually want to put forth the time and effort to do these things, but can't because of that thing called, life. some people can only play at certain times due to jobs/kids/college and school, etc. the little bit of time they may get to play, does not want to be just spent trying to farm and get money, with little to no success. they actually want to play and try to enjoy the game.

used to, farming was great and easy to do, and sometimes very profitable. now, i do not even bother trying to farm. if you look at it, the only ways that seem to be the quickest and most successful, are running and chest runs. chest runs can easily produce large amounts of money, but expect to spend a large amount of time doing it. running can produce moderates amount of cash, but at a usual slower rate.

for myself, my main form of getting cash is indeed chest running. setting a build up and running mineral springs for chests was not an easy task, but it helped me get larges amounts of money. picking up a gold req8 -3 (hexed) -2 (stance) summit warlord shield out of a chest was a glorious day for me. going to lions arch, announcing the shield, and immediately getting an offer of 495k was awesome. granted, i do not think the shield was worth that much, but nevertheless, i got the money for it. i have gotten many other drops from the chests in mineral springs, but granted usually the chest isn't worth the key.

on the side, a way of making money for myself is done with a very good friend of mine. it produces 12k for each of us in about 15 minutes. it really isn't that large of an amount, but it adds up. we charge 6k a person, and we fight the dunes of despair mission for you. a lot of people may think, wow that is outrageous, but people pay the price. when someone gets stuck trying to get a group for this mission, we provide a way out. honestly, if you are tired of being stuck, you will pay. what really makes me laugh about this are the people who whisper me when i advertise in dod that we are running. it never fails, i end up getting a whisper from someone saying that the cost of this run is 5k, not 6k you noob. sometimes i don't bother responding, but occasionally i do with a response like: "Well, where are the people that are runnning for 5k at?" Or i'll respond, "Where is it written down at that this run costs 5k?" About 90% of the time these people don't respond back, and about 60% of the time, these same people pay the 6k for the run. Usually our groups fill very quickly, and we finish the run with about 4 minutes left on the timer, so we usually only spend 15-20 minutes doing one run. The usual delays that we have are people who insist on following, and if the final boss is the monk boss, which lately he hasn't caused us much problems. so after about 15 or so minutes we have made 24k and split it down the middle. so when it is all said and done, it is decently profitable. currently we are working on a build like this for THK and possibly FoW. this will hopefully grant us decent sums of cash, but of course, it will take us time, which others don't have the luxury of.

Parson Brown · Jun 19, 2006, 10:23 PM // 22:23

400+ replies, so I'm sure the OP will not see this, but I'm up to like 200k in the bank, and that's with buying 15k Luxon for my Rit.

I'm not filthy rich by any stretch, but I don't want for anything.
How did I do it?
1) Just playing the game and not wasting money. Consider using collector's armor until you are ready to buy 1.5k. (I beat Factions wearing 3 pieces of 45AL Shing Jae armor before getting my 15k)

2) Think small: If it can turn a profit, trade your collectable trops to a collector, then sell the item. This usually sells for more than the drops. Sell crafting materials to players instead of a merchant, but don't waste a lot of time doing this. Go to the big armor centers (Drok's, Kaining) and sell quick. And pick up all your drops! Those 45g bo staffs add up quick. Alternatively, turn common materials into rare mats, then sell those. IIRC: 5 dust + 5 plant fibers + 40g = vial of ink = 200g at trader! And 5 wood + 20g = 1 parchment = 40g at trader.

3) "Farming" is not a dirty word. I don't farm for a living, but did you see how the first Totem Axes were selling for 40k+? Speed kills. I took some time out to farm a few greens as soon as they were discovered and profited well. Now, those same greens are selling so low that it's not worth the effort.